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    • ISSUE Datum anpassen
    • Note ab nächste PCB Version wird PCIe REF auf TEBF angepasst.
    • Im PB im allgemeinen AVN und dann bei dein TEBF und TE verlinken.


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CompanyTrenz Electronic GmbH
PCN NumberAVN-20220429
TitleAVN-20220429 Problems with PCIe
SubjectInformation and remedy concerning problematic with PCIe (Soc SoC as Host)
Issue Date

202204292022-04-29

Description: 

From time to time there are problems with PCIe on some TEBF0808/TE080x combinations are reported. The problem has problems can have various causes and is are usually one or a combination of the following:

  • 72992 - Design Advisory for Zynq UltraScale+ MPSoC/RFSoC: Possible link training failures or data errors on PCIe, SATA, or USB 3.0 protocol links using PS GTR
    • Xilinx provides patches for older Vivado VersionVersions, Vivado 2021.1 or newer should be fixed (Status 22.03.22 → Xilinx has changed this one time, so please check always AR#72992)
  • TE080X TE080x PCIe Reference Clock initialisation will be done mostly via I2C on FSBL. Xilinx provide provides custom access on FSBL after MIO and GTR initialisation. PLL initialisation before GTR initialisation will improve the initialisation of the link:
    • Trenz Electronic provides special FSBL inside Xilinx PSU (between MIO initialisation and GTR initialisation) to solve this problem. This will is done since Vivado 18.3 reference design releases.
  • Alignment Problems with  SS5SS5, ST5 connectors, which can cause connection problems:
    • Trenz Electronic has improved improved production to minimize tolerances.
    • Trenz Electronic starts to publish new Series TE081X which has same functionality but used uses ADM6 connectors, which has have very good self alignment capabilities.
  • PCIe Reference CLK can cause problem with PCIe:
    • SoC/FPGA side: Xilinx GTR reference CLK support supports LVDS/LVPECL. PLL will be configured with correct LVDS standard on Trenz Reference Designs. In case of custom carrier and external reference clock, see also Xilinx ARx43641.
    • PCIe Card side: PCIe requires HSCL IO or similar standard. Currently on the TEBF0808 AC coupled LVDS is used, which are is generated by the PLLs PLL of the modulesmodule. However, the PLLs (SI5338 of SI5345) also support HSCL. Better results are achieved when the PLL is changed to HSCL and the capacitors on the carrier are replaced by 0Ohm resistors.

Products Affected

This change AVN affects all Trenz Electronic TEBF0808 together with compatible SoMs: TE080x.

Affected Product

Effected Changes
TEBF0808-*#2 (use together with #1 on module!)
TE0808-*#1
TE0807-*#1
TE0803-*#1

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Advices

#1 Use HSCL standard for PCIe CLK

Type: Improvement
Reason: HSCL standard is more compline to in compliance with PCIe specification and will improve PCIe stability. Changes will be implemented in newer reference designs (2021. 2 or newer)
Impact: Carrier with which still use AC coupled reference clk CLK for PCIe on the carrier .are recommended to be modify carrier, see #2. Changes will be implemented in newer reference designs (2021.2 or newer)

#2 Replace C93 and C94 by 0Ohm resistor

Type: Improvement
Reason: DC coupled HSCL standard is more compline to in compliance with PCIe specification and will improve PCIe Stabilitystability.  Capacitor C93 and C94 of PCI_REF_*/CLK0_* should be replaced with 0Ohm resistor
Impact: Design which still use LVDS as PLL output for PCIe CLK to the carrier .  It's are recommended to configuration be configured to use HSCL, see #1.


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Method of Identification

  • #1: Check PLL project files of your design
    TE0808/TE0807:

    TE0803:


  • #2: Check TEBF0808 PCN and assembly  option of C93/C94 on the carrier.

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Contact Information

If you have any questions related to this PCNAVN, please contact Trenz Electronics Technical Support at

Disclaimer

Any projected dates in this PCN AVN are based on the most current product information at the time this PCN AVN is being issued, but they may change due to unforeseen circumstances.  For the latest schedule and any other information, please contact your local Trenz Electronic sales office, technical support or local distributor.

This PCN AVN follows JEDEC Standard JStandard J-STD-046.